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		<title>By: Arshama</title>
		<link>http://enduringamerica.com/2009/10/22/the-latest-from-iran-22-october-unsteady-as-she-goes/comment-page-1/#comment-11796</link>
		<dc:creator>Arshama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 00:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting insights on generational devide from Narges Kalhor, the daughter of AN&#039;s senior adviser, who fled to Germany recently: 
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/22/world/middleeast/22iran.html?scp=4&amp;sq=Iran&amp;st=cse</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting insights on generational devide from Narges Kalhor, the daughter of AN&#8217;s senior adviser, who fled to Germany recently:<br />
<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/22/world/middleeast/22iran.html?scp=4&amp;sq=Iran&amp;st=cse" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/22/world/middleeast/22iran.html?scp=4&amp;sq=Iran&amp;st=cse</a></p>
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		<title>By: Arshama</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arshama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 23:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to Raoul and Megan for your comments. Even though it will not be easy to overcome 30 years of brainwashing, today&#039;s Iranian society, especially the younger generation and women, is fed up with empty promises. Gradual changes are visible even within the reformist&#039;s camp, which insisted on possible changes within the system until now. Just have a look at Nikahang Kowsar&#039;s cartoon today: Mousavi appraisal of Khomeini&#039;s &quot;Golden Age&quot; is commented with &quot;His Alzheimer has broken out again&quot; http://www.roozonline.com/persian/cartoon/cartoon-item/article/2009/october/22//-3715109575.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to Raoul and Megan for your comments. Even though it will not be easy to overcome 30 years of brainwashing, today&#8217;s Iranian society, especially the younger generation and women, is fed up with empty promises. Gradual changes are visible even within the reformist&#8217;s camp, which insisted on possible changes within the system until now. Just have a look at Nikahang Kowsar&#8217;s cartoon today: Mousavi appraisal of Khomeini&#8217;s &#8220;Golden Age&#8221; is commented with &#8220;His Alzheimer has broken out again&#8221; <a href="http://www.roozonline.com/persian/cartoon/cartoon-item/article/2009/october/22//-3715109575.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.roozonline.com/persian/cartoon/cartoon-item/article/2009/october/22//-3715109575.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Megan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Megan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 22:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>raoul michelin,

I concur with your assessment of people sentiments.  Based on phone calls and comments in various posts from Iranians living in Iran it is evident that green movement has way passed its onetime leaders.  For example I noted a lukewarm reaction to Mousavi’s remarks following his October 18 interview.  Many criticized him for being MIA (missing in action).  Others criticized him for expressing views that were widely different form that of the people.  

Callers and posters very clearly and often loudly state they do not want any Islamic flavor in their government anymore and if Mousavi and Karroubi insist otherwise they are on their own.   A woman reminded Mousavi not to stray away from his promises during campaign.  She wrote Mousavi claimed he would lead Iran by working side by side with people and not in front or in the back.  She wrote people were done with Islamic system of the government that had not worked and if Mousavi insists on it he is not working side by side with us, the people.

Another interesting observation from posts by Iranians living in Iran is the unanimous visceral disgust for Rafsanjani. It appears that Rafsanjani enjoys 0% approval by Iranians in the front line of Green movement.  Rafsanjani‘s attempt  in playing it safe by throwing a bone or two to people while keeping his tie with the leadership seems to have backfired big time.  

Hassan Shariatmadari, the son of Ayatollah Shariatmadari, had an insightful analysis of reformists’ nostalgia for Khomeini era and return to constitution.  He stated the move by the so-called reformist clergies had to do more with not losing it all than installing a true democratic government in Iran.   Shariatmadari’s analysis can be found s in the archive of epersianradio.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>raoul michelin,</p>
<p>I concur with your assessment of people sentiments.  Based on phone calls and comments in various posts from Iranians living in Iran it is evident that green movement has way passed its onetime leaders.  For example I noted a lukewarm reaction to Mousavi’s remarks following his October 18 interview.  Many criticized him for being MIA (missing in action).  Others criticized him for expressing views that were widely different form that of the people.  </p>
<p>Callers and posters very clearly and often loudly state they do not want any Islamic flavor in their government anymore and if Mousavi and Karroubi insist otherwise they are on their own.   A woman reminded Mousavi not to stray away from his promises during campaign.  She wrote Mousavi claimed he would lead Iran by working side by side with people and not in front or in the back.  She wrote people were done with Islamic system of the government that had not worked and if Mousavi insists on it he is not working side by side with us, the people.</p>
<p>Another interesting observation from posts by Iranians living in Iran is the unanimous visceral disgust for Rafsanjani. It appears that Rafsanjani enjoys 0% approval by Iranians in the front line of Green movement.  Rafsanjani‘s attempt  in playing it safe by throwing a bone or two to people while keeping his tie with the leadership seems to have backfired big time.  </p>
<p>Hassan Shariatmadari, the son of Ayatollah Shariatmadari, had an insightful analysis of reformists’ nostalgia for Khomeini era and return to constitution.  He stated the move by the so-called reformist clergies had to do more with not losing it all than installing a true democratic government in Iran.   Shariatmadari’s analysis can be found s in the archive of epersianradio.com</p>
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		<title>By: The Latest from Iran (22 October): Unsteady as She Goes &#124; Enduring &#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 19:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: raoul michelin</title>
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		<dc:creator>raoul michelin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>30 years ago, many of those with aspirations for a free and democratic Iran were told to follow the Khomeinist banner &quot;for now, for the sake of unity, until the government changes&quot;, with promises that religion and government would never intermingle.  Mr. Khomeini said he would stand aside and become a simple preacher once his &quot;task&quot; of freeing Iran from &quot;tyranny&quot; had been accomplished.  What happened next is a matter of record.  This time around, understandably, there seems to be very little public trust in the promises of the revolutionary intelligentsia who shared (and still proudly claim to share) the same ideals of Mr. Khomeini.  There are many within the Green Movement who do not have the same fond memories of the &quot;Golden Age of Khomeini&quot; decried by leaders like Mr. Moussavi.   For them, the Moussavi-sponsored slogan of &quot;Not Eastern, Not Western - but an Islamic Republic&quot; is not acceptable. And promises of &quot;unity for now&quot; have the stench of 30-year-old broken deals.  Iran is a country of many religions.  Could an Iranian Republic offer a better way for people of all faiths (Moslems, Jews, Christians, etc.) to practice their religion at home and carry on living with dignity and - at least a modicum of - freedom?  And will people continue to chant for an Iranian Republic on November 4th?  Let&#039;s see....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>30 years ago, many of those with aspirations for a free and democratic Iran were told to follow the Khomeinist banner &#8220;for now, for the sake of unity, until the government changes&#8221;, with promises that religion and government would never intermingle.  Mr. Khomeini said he would stand aside and become a simple preacher once his &#8220;task&#8221; of freeing Iran from &#8220;tyranny&#8221; had been accomplished.  What happened next is a matter of record.  This time around, understandably, there seems to be very little public trust in the promises of the revolutionary intelligentsia who shared (and still proudly claim to share) the same ideals of Mr. Khomeini.  There are many within the Green Movement who do not have the same fond memories of the &#8220;Golden Age of Khomeini&#8221; decried by leaders like Mr. Moussavi.   For them, the Moussavi-sponsored slogan of &#8220;Not Eastern, Not Western &#8211; but an Islamic Republic&#8221; is not acceptable. And promises of &#8220;unity for now&#8221; have the stench of 30-year-old broken deals.  Iran is a country of many religions.  Could an Iranian Republic offer a better way for people of all faiths (Moslems, Jews, Christians, etc.) to practice their religion at home and carry on living with dignity and &#8211; at least a modicum of &#8211; freedom?  And will people continue to chant for an Iranian Republic on November 4th?  Let&#8217;s see&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: ange paris</title>
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		<dc:creator>ange paris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have found this on the facebook of moussavi :

&quot;In a meeting with the scholars of the Qom Seminary School, Hashemi-Rafsanjani stressed that over the history the clergymen have always been the support and hope for the people and have always been alongside the people whenever they have been under op...pression. He added that the clergymen should follow Islamic and the revolutionary teachings and avoid being fearful and having shallow praises for the authorities. He further reiterated the importance of following the constitution in order to solve country’s crises. He also emphasised on the importance of the free and unbiased media in the country in order to inform the public of the country’s events and problems without censorship and distortion.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have found this on the facebook of moussavi :</p>
<p>&#8220;In a meeting with the scholars of the Qom Seminary School, Hashemi-Rafsanjani stressed that over the history the clergymen have always been the support and hope for the people and have always been alongside the people whenever they have been under op&#8230;pression. He added that the clergymen should follow Islamic and the revolutionary teachings and avoid being fearful and having shallow praises for the authorities. He further reiterated the importance of following the constitution in order to solve country’s crises. He also emphasised on the importance of the free and unbiased media in the country in order to inform the public of the country’s events and problems without censorship and distortion.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: raoul michelin</title>
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		<dc:creator>raoul michelin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The events of the past four months have fuelled ongoing arguments in favor of the separation of religion and government.  While the reformists, including some leaders of the Green Movement, seek to &#039;improve&#039; the Islamic Republic, many of the people constituting the Green Movement have voiced their belief (mainly through chants and slogans) that the Islamic Republic should become an Iranian Republic.  This has alarmed many of the old guard, as well as some of the so-called reformists; without an Islamic Republic (in an improved or other form) they stand to lose everything.  In fact, even some vocieferous critics of the Ahmadinejad government (such as Aazam Taleghani) are now saying not only that the Islamic Republic must remain, but that those demanding an Iranian Republic must have somehow lost their faith in Islam.  She suggests that &#039;sociologists&#039; look into this phenomenon.  What some reformists fail or refuse to realize is that many people had lost their faith long ago - not necessarily in Islam, but in the Islamic Republic.  The recent brutality of the regime in the name of religion has opened old wounds and created many new ones.  Watch for this ideological rift.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The events of the past four months have fuelled ongoing arguments in favor of the separation of religion and government.  While the reformists, including some leaders of the Green Movement, seek to &#8216;improve&#8217; the Islamic Republic, many of the people constituting the Green Movement have voiced their belief (mainly through chants and slogans) that the Islamic Republic should become an Iranian Republic.  This has alarmed many of the old guard, as well as some of the so-called reformists; without an Islamic Republic (in an improved or other form) they stand to lose everything.  In fact, even some vocieferous critics of the Ahmadinejad government (such as Aazam Taleghani) are now saying not only that the Islamic Republic must remain, but that those demanding an Iranian Republic must have somehow lost their faith in Islam.  She suggests that &#8217;sociologists&#8217; look into this phenomenon.  What some reformists fail or refuse to realize is that many people had lost their faith long ago &#8211; not necessarily in Islam, but in the Islamic Republic.  The recent brutality of the regime in the name of religion has opened old wounds and created many new ones.  Watch for this ideological rift.</p>
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