As comments may now be “locked” because of the number of responses, I have started a new thread, “13 Aban: The Day Goes On“, to keep the discussion going.

(Cyaxares,

I edited the comment because your allegation was put directly at Samuel. I have no problem letting stand the allegation of abuses by the security forces. I believe other commenters can and will effectively address Samuel’s support of Basiji violence.)

S.

Blinkered Media: FOX “News” take on today’s events… (hint, it’s all about us) Fox News Reporting: Americans Held Hostage in Iran

I post on Presstv under “Mad Kafir” and i have attained a world record for the time it takes them to delete my comments. I shattered my record of 2 minutes not once but three times!! First it was 49 seconds, then 29 seconds, and then a earth shattering 9 seconds after I posted it. I don’t know how anyone can support a regime that censors basic truth because they view it as a threat. My post only stated Presstv did not report on the thousands of security agents rushing protestors and shooting tear gas. I of course posted a message to the censor that said “One day the regime won’t like what you say and it will be you who will be literally deleted.” That post lasted over a minute–I can only guess it probably struck a cord with this employee who is most likely forced to do the censorship.

To all Iranians keep the faith we are all with you. Free Iran and may the Green Wave come crashing down on the coup regime!!

thx
Bill

People, please show some courtesy to Samuel. He and his…ilk are sensitive heifers; sloganeering puts their tulip souls in a…tizzy. Show some respect for their effeminate disposition. And please, when their flabby amygdala sputters by fallaciously equating the chanting of “down with Khamenei” with the barbaric violence of Allah’s …soldiers, just smile and say, “Yes, my dear tulip.”

By 1933 Germany had been in turmoil for 20 years – but by the time Hitler was appointed Chancellor and shortly after, the Nazis were firmly in control of the Security apparatus and Army. There was still internal opposition to him – but it could gain no traction and was forced to be quiet (and slaughtered by the Nazis) . Meanwhile the great majority of Germans “accepted” the situation – and eventually soon after supported the Nazis..

This eventually led to a major war with Germany – when the democratic countries of the world finally understood the necessity of it.

History is repeating itself.

Anti – Regime Iranians will need to form a resistance and fight. There will be no meaningful peaceful change in Iran. Peaceful resistance may have worked for the Indians – but todays Iran is nothing like 1946 India. 2009 Iran is 1933 Germany

Barry

The key to making any change change in Iran has and will continue to be neutralizing the 20 million or so loyal supporters of this regime who makeup the remaining base for it.

We cannot kill 20 million other Iranians and with the regime still controlling all security forces, they will always have the “official” support to march and control much of the PR.

So the question continues to be: how can we change the strong support of this segment for the government who maintains their support with

1. manipulating their religious beliefs: requires active leadership of top clerics

and

2. directing more oil revenues to their needs: cut back on regime’s ability to generate oil revenues

We also need to get millions of Iranians who are sitting on the sidelines because they distrust ANY politician’s motives as a self-serving power grab. This group needs to be convinced that their chosen leader(s) are in it for the people.