Comments on: The Latest from Iran (10 November): Uncertainty and Propaganda

By: Hossein

Hossein — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 07:14:57 +0000

Please, we have yet another horrible news of systematic rape in prisons and not just after the “elections” but for a long time. Please get this information out. I don’t know if this is the way but I hope human rights organizations will get to know these atrocities. My fellow human these are real reports of barbaric acts of the IRI. Please spread the news. This is a ling to a reliable Persian source:
http://hrdai.blogspot.com/2009/11/blog-post_14.html

By: shangool

shangool — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:23:33 +0000

Megan
I think the Mosque thing is true, that`s why he was nicknamed Ali geda, but one has to admire his progress, from being a geda to one of the wealthiest men in Iran. Unless he still goes to Mousques with a hat in his hand.

By: Megan

Megan — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:59:46 +0000

Shangool,

Thank you. I had a good laugh; S boy for the Basiji fellow, and douchebag for SL. Very fitting for Ali Khaannei (no, this is not a typo, he is a pathetic traitor).

I read somewhere the other day that SL stands for sh*** Load. I thought that even was too generous for this senile Khaan (traitor). Is it true that Sh** Load lived on handouts in mosques? I have heard people calling him Ali geda (beggar).

By: shangool

shangool — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:29:04 +0000

Sammy
SL was a big douce-bag then as he is now. See I understand history.
But lemme hear your thoughts… you think Israel is gonna hit Iran?

I hope so

By: Samuel

Samuel — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:16:27 +0000

Hey Shangool,

Pity you don’t understand recent history. Let’s see President Khatami unilaterally stopped nuclear enrichment. Now who was the Supreme Leader during the Khatami presidency that allowed this to take place…

By: Samuel

Samuel — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:52:44 +0000

Barry,

The more important point was the American alliance with Saudi Arabia and Egypt which shows that America does not care at all about democracy either there or in Iran.

And as for the beloved Churchill he certainly did not extend that fondness for democracy to his nation’s colonies. The man devoted his entire life to keeping the colonies under the British boot and he was especially fanatical about keeping India.

But I’m sure you’ll explain Churchill’s actions as being due to “long and complex reasons” relating to British Colonial history. Whether it’s the Americans in Korea or now the British you’ll always find a way to give them the benefit of the doubt.

By: Barry Ward

Barry Ward — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:27:51 +0000

Samual

“The whole notion that the Americans care about “democracy” in the Region is laughable when you consider that America’s two closest allies in the Arab world are those two great democratic nations: Wahabbi Saudi Arabia and Mubarak’s Egypt. Conversely when a truly recognized free and fair election takes place in the West Bank and Gaza the first thing that the Americans try to do is overturn the Victory of Hamas.”

Thank you – I have just been waiting for you to bring up this dichotomy.

Those of us who actually live in a truely Democratic country and who recognize just exactly what Democracy is understand that is is not perfect. Winston Churchill had a statement about Democracy, something to the effect that it is not a very good form of Government, but it is the best that is available.

When Hitler rose to power, he did so completely legally (in accordance with the German Constitution of the time) and completely Democratically. The problem with him was that his idealogy was based on violence, coercion, and guns. He used the concept of Democracy for his own evil purposes . The World only realized that later.

Hamas was also elected “Democratically” – but we in the truely Democratic world understand that their “Democracy” is also based upon violence, coersion and guns. We can see through it!

Barry

By: shangool

shangool — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 06:12:19 +0000

I think Obama has been hitting the bong since he got in the White House. He seems delusional. I mean how the hell can you Negotiate with someone like AN, AN is demented, AN brings out a plate of food for Imam Mahdi when he sits down for dinner, just in case Imam Mahdi decides to pay AN a visit. Even Khomeini warned against superstition.

WIMV,
a question for you, since you`re in Iran and all. How do Iranians feel about a military intervention targeted at the IRGC and the nuke facilites, will they rally around the flag or will they welcome it.

By: Hossein

Hossein — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 05:42:41 +0000

The U.S. government is gravely mistaken if it thinks it is making progress “negotiating” with the IRI. The will have to answer to future Iranians who will demand to know why the U.S. not only did not stand with its own principles of freedom and democracy but kowtowed to a thuggish regime, to a ruthless despot and looked away from torture, rape, and every other abuse of human rights. What is going on. I am confused and very sad. I sincerely do not see what the U.S. thinks it is gaining. Is it personal? Are the simply ignoring the truth or are they really naive to think they have gained something in “negotiating” with the IRI? United the world will bring democracy and freedom to Iran, the dance of appeasement will end in the gutter after everyone has trampled every other foot. What is going on? Do not forget that the majority of Iranians have rights and will demand to know what we are doing with those today. History has always eventually looked down on those who shake the hands of despots and those who abuse the basic human rights of people. Humanity also has a right. We must not give in.

By: shangool

shangool — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 05:24:48 +0000

Hey Sammy Boy,
what`s your take on the nuclear negotiations, don`t you think Khomeini is turning around in his grave? AN is gonna make a deal with the great Satan. what will be next, he recognizes the sionist state of Israel?, AN, Jafari and SL are sellouts! And do you think Benjamin will order an attack against Iran.

By: Samuel

Samuel — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 04:26:31 +0000

The whole notion that the Americans care about “democracy” in the Region is laughable when you consider that America’s two closest allies in the Arab world are those two great democratic nations: Wahabbi Saudi Arabia and Mubarak’s Egypt. Conversely when a truly recognized free and fair election takes place in the West Bank and Gaza the first thing that the Americans try to do is overturn the Victory of Hamas.

The best news of the day is certaily this: “…a senior official in the Student Basij organization, has announced that 6,000 Basij units will be created in elementary schools, seeking to promote Basij and revolutionary ideals among pupils from a young age.”

Expect a lot more stories like this soon. The Basij is being entrusted with leading the coming cultural revolution. Soon perhaps the Basij will reach Imam Khomeini’s goal of a 20 million strong army.

By: shangool

shangool — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:31:30 +0000

WIMV,
In regards to your concern about the enrichment deal saving the AN admin. I agree with you that an agreement between Iran and US will save AN. I disagree with you that this deal will take place before december. Obviously Obama wants to have something to show for when he arrives in Oslo. But consider this: Which I believe to be connected to the enrichment deal. The seizure of weapons outside the Israeli Coast. We debated this and its significance. The timing is very convenient / unconvenient.

1) This was staged by Mossad in an attempt to shut down the enrichment deal, in essence Israel will rather have a military confrontation.

2) This was purely a black market job for profit( I doubt that)

3) IRGC and AN know that the negotiations will lead nowhere, they`re preparing for war.

4) Hashemi and allies was behind this, in an attempt to discredit AN.

regardless, I doubt Obama will go against Israeli wishes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s3coyg6EXU