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		<title>By: Rev Magdalen</title>
		<link>http://enduringamerica.com/2009/11/18/the-latest-from-iran-18-november-bubbling/comment-page-1/#comment-14248</link>
		<dc:creator>Rev Magdalen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 03:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Somebody You make really good points, and of course it would be a gamble in the sense that the regime would have to trust in the good faith of the deal, that the uranium would come back.  I&#039;m just saying in my opinion I&#039;d rather have a leader less focused on uranium in general, and more focused on the people&#039;s needs.  

If Ahmadinejad got everything he ever wanted in terms of uranium, there&#039;d still be thousands of people who haven&#039;t been paid in months, high double-digit unemployment, serious economic and infrastructure problems that seem to be off the radar for him.  He could stand at a podium and announce his triumph, but people would still be hungry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Somebody You make really good points, and of course it would be a gamble in the sense that the regime would have to trust in the good faith of the deal, that the uranium would come back.  I&#8217;m just saying in my opinion I&#8217;d rather have a leader less focused on uranium in general, and more focused on the people&#8217;s needs.  </p>
<p>If Ahmadinejad got everything he ever wanted in terms of uranium, there&#8217;d still be thousands of people who haven&#8217;t been paid in months, high double-digit unemployment, serious economic and infrastructure problems that seem to be off the radar for him.  He could stand at a podium and announce his triumph, but people would still be hungry.</p>
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		<title>By: kevina</title>
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		<dc:creator>kevina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 01:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Scott 20:47

I agree for two reasons.  One, her info, esp. on Raf. and family, has been good.  Two, read &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.carnegieendowment.org/files/sadjadpour_iran_final2.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Pg. 27 from this 2-year old Sadjadpour piece.&lt;/a&gt;  I read this, oh, 2 months ago, and it&#039;s stuck with me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Scott 20:47</p>
<p>I agree for two reasons.  One, her info, esp. on Raf. and family, has been good.  Two, read <a href="http://www.carnegieendowment.org/files/sadjadpour_iran_final2.pdf" rel="nofollow">Pg. 27 from this 2-year old Sadjadpour piece.</a>  I read this, oh, 2 months ago, and it&#8217;s stuck with me.</p>
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		<title>By: Somebody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Somebody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 01:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Rev Magdalen

If they agree to the deal and send out almost all of the uranium that they&#039;d produced it would hurt the anti-imperialist nationalist image they have developed out of the existence of the very nuclear program that enriched that uranium.

That in itself might not be so terrible and may lead to major diplomatic progress but what if at some future point there is a snag in the diplomatic process and relations with the west grow strained again? What if the deal is broken off and there are no returns on the uranium (it wouldn&#039;t be the first time)? That would spell political disaster for the portion of the political establishment that green-lighted the deal (and it seems that would go all the way up to the supreme leader on this kind of decision) and could therefore be used to force further political concessions.

I suspect that this is the reasoning employed by decision-makers in Tehran leading to their weariness of accepting the nuclear deal and not just simply pride.

Anyway, hopefully diplomatic progress can be made in spite of this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Rev Magdalen</p>
<p>If they agree to the deal and send out almost all of the uranium that they&#8217;d produced it would hurt the anti-imperialist nationalist image they have developed out of the existence of the very nuclear program that enriched that uranium.</p>
<p>That in itself might not be so terrible and may lead to major diplomatic progress but what if at some future point there is a snag in the diplomatic process and relations with the west grow strained again? What if the deal is broken off and there are no returns on the uranium (it wouldn&#8217;t be the first time)? That would spell political disaster for the portion of the political establishment that green-lighted the deal (and it seems that would go all the way up to the supreme leader on this kind of decision) and could therefore be used to force further political concessions.</p>
<p>I suspect that this is the reasoning employed by decision-makers in Tehran leading to their weariness of accepting the nuclear deal and not just simply pride.</p>
<p>Anyway, hopefully diplomatic progress can be made in spite of this.</p>
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		<title>By: Rev Magdalen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rev Magdalen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you tell someone, hey, we want to reduce the amount of enriched uranium you have in your country, because you and your neighbor have been having hostility, and reducing this supply, simply the act of moving some objects around on the globe, would ENORMOUSLY help cool off tensions and foster the peace process, if you tell someone that, and then they say hmm, ok, well how about instead you first bring us some MORE uranium, much more highly enriched, and then when we&#039;ve got the extra AND what we have now, then, we&#039;ll trade some of the extra for some of what we have now simultaneously, when that happens, you have to reply: um, no, that actually is NOTHING AT ALL LIKE THE POINT of these negotiations!  That would do NOTHING to foster peace!

Ahmadinejad&#039;s talk of national sovereign rights is irrelevant.  A good leader should be willing to comply with regulations, even if they&#039;re crazy and based on prejudice, to get sanctions lifted for his people to prosper.  He should be willing to say, &quot;You guys are making a huge mistake. We&#039;re peaceful, I&#039;m peaceful, I would never make a weapon with this. But SINCE YOU SUSPECT US UNFAIRLY, here you go, here&#039;s all the uranium, just take it.  Lift the sanctions so my people can thrive.&quot;  You know you&#039;re a dictator when you put pride before your people&#039;s welfare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you tell someone, hey, we want to reduce the amount of enriched uranium you have in your country, because you and your neighbor have been having hostility, and reducing this supply, simply the act of moving some objects around on the globe, would ENORMOUSLY help cool off tensions and foster the peace process, if you tell someone that, and then they say hmm, ok, well how about instead you first bring us some MORE uranium, much more highly enriched, and then when we&#8217;ve got the extra AND what we have now, then, we&#8217;ll trade some of the extra for some of what we have now simultaneously, when that happens, you have to reply: um, no, that actually is NOTHING AT ALL LIKE THE POINT of these negotiations!  That would do NOTHING to foster peace!</p>
<p>Ahmadinejad&#8217;s talk of national sovereign rights is irrelevant.  A good leader should be willing to comply with regulations, even if they&#8217;re crazy and based on prejudice, to get sanctions lifted for his people to prosper.  He should be willing to say, &#8220;You guys are making a huge mistake. We&#8217;re peaceful, I&#8217;m peaceful, I would never make a weapon with this. But SINCE YOU SUSPECT US UNFAIRLY, here you go, here&#8217;s all the uranium, just take it.  Lift the sanctions so my people can thrive.&#8221;  You know you&#8217;re a dictator when you put pride before your people&#8217;s welfare.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Lucas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Lucas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pedestrian,

Thank you for the additional info.

S.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pedestrian,</p>
<p>Thank you for the additional info.</p>
<p>S.</p>
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		<title>By: Pedestrian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pedestrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kambiz Noroozi is a journalist but he&#039;s also a very respected lawyer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kambiz Noroozi is a journalist but he&#8217;s also a very respected lawyer.</p>
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		<title>By: ange paris</title>
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		<dc:creator>ange paris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thomas
Well said ! and I hope it from the depth of my heart; somebody who has the renown and deserves to lead ! and destroy this huge octopus for ever</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas<br />
Well said ! and I hope it from the depth of my heart; somebody who has the renown and deserves to lead ! and destroy this huge octopus for ever</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding 0930 GMT post:

Who better to lead a counter-coup with disgruntled IRGC members than a popular war hero and technically competent political leader?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding 0930 GMT post:</p>
<p>Who better to lead a counter-coup with disgruntled IRGC members than a popular war hero and technically competent political leader?</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott

You may be right. 

BUT - remember Stalin&#039;s famous quip  &quot;The Pope? How many Divisions does he have?&quot;

That piece of past history is relevant here - in regards to any possible moves to eject the &quot;Supreme Leader&quot;.

&quot;Supreme Leader - doesn&#039;t that have a marvelous ring about it? I used to think that it might be nice to be a President, or a King - or better yet, an Emperor.  But &quot;Supreme Leader&quot; does have that ring to it - it&#039;s so descriptive.

Barry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott</p>
<p>You may be right. </p>
<p>BUT &#8211; remember Stalin&#8217;s famous quip  &#8220;The Pope? How many Divisions does he have?&#8221;</p>
<p>That piece of past history is relevant here &#8211; in regards to any possible moves to eject the &#8220;Supreme Leader&#8221;.</p>
<p>&#8220;Supreme Leader &#8211; doesn&#8217;t that have a marvelous ring about it? I used to think that it might be nice to be a President, or a King &#8211; or better yet, an Emperor.  But &#8220;Supreme Leader&#8221; does have that ring to it &#8211; it&#8217;s so descriptive.</p>
<p>Barry</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Lucas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Lucas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin,

I believe there is fire behind Oxford&#039;s smoke....

S.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin,</p>
<p>I believe there is fire behind Oxford&#8217;s smoke&#8230;.</p>
<p>S.</p>
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		<title>By: kevina</title>
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		<dc:creator>kevina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thoughts:

Kudos to PBS for a job well done.  Very good, if gut-wrenching, to watch.

I was wondering when Hashemi would resurface.  Question with the one quote you use.  Many will assume he&#039;s warning against radicalizing the opposition.  That&#039;s probably what he meant, but could it ALSO be a roundabout reference to Hojjatieh bunch (whom Raf hates) too?

Finally, to be taken with a grain of salt, but &lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/oxfordgirl/status/5829625660&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;an interesting tweet from oxfordgirl.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thoughts:</p>
<p>Kudos to PBS for a job well done.  Very good, if gut-wrenching, to watch.</p>
<p>I was wondering when Hashemi would resurface.  Question with the one quote you use.  Many will assume he&#8217;s warning against radicalizing the opposition.  That&#8217;s probably what he meant, but could it ALSO be a roundabout reference to Hojjatieh bunch (whom Raf hates) too?</p>
<p>Finally, to be taken with a grain of salt, but <a href="http://twitter.com/oxfordgirl/status/5829625660" rel="nofollow">an interesting tweet from oxfordgirl.</a></p>
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